Comments on: ‘Abandoned’ Soviet Shuttle http://howtobearetronaut.com/2011/09/abandoned-soviet-shuttle/ Ever get the feeling you're living in the wrong time? Fri, 28 Oct 2024 12:40:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Vega http://howtobearetronaut.com/2011/09/abandoned-soviet-shuttle/#comment-83875 Vega Thu, 20 Oct 2024 13:24:19 +0000 http://howtobearetronaut.com/?p=25597#comment-83875 IgotBupkis, would you remind me again how American astronauts propose getting into space these days? Almost 2,000 Soyuz have been blasted into space over the past 50 years, with very few failures. IgotBupkis, would you remind me again how American astronauts propose getting into space these days? Almost 2,000 Soyuz have been blasted into space over the past 50 years, with very few failures.

]]> By: IgotBupkis http://howtobearetronaut.com/2011/09/abandoned-soviet-shuttle/#comment-80662 IgotBupkis Mon, 10 Oct 2024 07:24:26 +0000 http://howtobearetronaut.com/?p=25597#comment-80662 If it's going to be flying at an airshow, let me know, so I can NOT be at that show, n'Kay? >>> <i>What’s so freaky about analog? Analog got us to the moon and back!</i> This is a different kind of "analog"... This is the "tap it with your finger to make sure it's not stuck" kind of analog. I recall seeing how the Soyuz compared to the Apollo, back when there was the joint A-S mission in the 70s. The NYT, I think it was, had a visual comparison of the two instrument panels. It was like a comparison of the Spirit of St. Louis panel with that of a 747. The Soyuz astronauts took location measurements using star sightings out of the window. The Apollo used a specially designed periscope that took *accurate* star measurements. What was amazing about the Soviet space program was not that they got men into space, it's that they got ANY of them back alive. It says more than enough that the Soviet shuttle never really got "off the ground", considering the endless headaches that NASA had with the task, and they were vastly more technically competent. The Russians have always been world class at the pure sciences -- math, physics, chemistry and the like... but their overall engineering talents, in The Real World, have generally been remarkably laughable. If it’s going to be flying at an airshow, let me know, so I can NOT be at that show, n’Kay?

>>> What’s so freaky about analog? Analog got us to the moon and back!

This is a different kind of “analog”… This is the “tap it with your finger to make sure it’s not stuck” kind of analog.

I recall seeing how the Soyuz compared to the Apollo, back when there was the joint A-S mission in the 70s. The NYT, I think it was, had a visual comparison of the two instrument panels. It was like a comparison of the Spirit of St. Louis panel with that of a 747. The Soyuz astronauts took location measurements using star sightings out of the window. The Apollo used a specially designed periscope that took *accurate* star measurements.

What was amazing about the Soviet space program was not that they got men into space, it’s that they got ANY of them back alive.

It says more than enough that the Soviet shuttle never really got “off the ground”, considering the endless headaches that NASA had with the task, and they were vastly more technically competent.

The Russians have always been world class at the pure sciences — math, physics, chemistry and the like… but their overall engineering talents, in The Real World, have generally been remarkably laughable.

]]> By: Dave Carey http://howtobearetronaut.com/2011/09/abandoned-soviet-shuttle/#comment-64094 Dave Carey Sun, 18 Sep 2024 18:23:01 +0000 http://howtobearetronaut.com/?p=25597#comment-64094 http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Buran_005.html Go to this site lots of pictures and an Article on the Machine now in Gorky park. It is now used as a coffee house http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Buran_005.html

Go to this site lots of pictures and an Article on the Machine now in Gorky park. It is now used as a coffee house

]]> By: n00tch http://howtobearetronaut.com/2011/09/abandoned-soviet-shuttle/#comment-62200 n00tch Sun, 11 Sep 2024 04:20:46 +0000 http://howtobearetronaut.com/?p=25597#comment-62200 @Matt If it were restored, why not? I think it would be pretty damned amazing tbh! @Matt If it were restored, why not? I think it would be pretty damned amazing tbh!

]]> By: Matt http://howtobearetronaut.com/2011/09/abandoned-soviet-shuttle/#comment-61734 Matt Thu, 08 Sep 2024 23:54:18 +0000 http://howtobearetronaut.com/?p=25597#comment-61734 @nOOtch - would you fly in it then? :-) @nOOtch – would you fly in it then? :-)

]]> By: johnrey http://howtobearetronaut.com/2011/09/abandoned-soviet-shuttle/#comment-61706 johnrey Thu, 08 Sep 2024 19:28:57 +0000 http://howtobearetronaut.com/?p=25597#comment-61706 That's not the Sydney airframe (that's now beautifully preserved in a german museum, this is on of the test articles, there's loads of info on these two sites! http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Friverforum.ru%2Fshowthread.html%3Ft%3D389 http://www.buran.ru/htm/news.htm#27-06-2012 Kind regards John That’s not the Sydney airframe (that’s now beautifully preserved in a german museum, this is on of the test articles, there’s loads of info on these two sites!

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Friverforum.ru%2Fshowthread.html%3Ft%3D389

http://www.buran.ru/htm/news.htm#27-06-2012

Kind regards

John

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