Comments on: Afghanistan, 1950s / 1960s http://howtobearetronaut.com/2010/10/once-upon-a-time-in-afghanistan/ Ever get the feeling you're living in the wrong time? Mon, 07 Nov 2024 05:20:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Roberto Sanchez http://howtobearetronaut.com/2010/10/once-upon-a-time-in-afghanistan/#comment-61174 Roberto Sanchez Mon, 05 Sep 2024 18:49:02 +0000 http://howtobearetronaut.com/?p=7618#comment-61174 Old tasty pics, without other value than show the people how to create ilusion, and raise national spirit. Just establishment propaganda. There's not heaven in earth. Old tasty pics, without other value than show the people how to create ilusion, and raise national spirit. Just establishment propaganda. There’s not heaven in earth.

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By: Liz http://howtobearetronaut.com/2010/10/once-upon-a-time-in-afghanistan/#comment-60466 Liz Thu, 01 Sep 2024 11:44:29 +0000 http://howtobearetronaut.com/?p=7618#comment-60466 Afganistan has some of the most sort after minerals in the world including vast deposits of uranium. This info was published not too long ago as I remember. Before the USSR invasion, Afganistan was a happening place, home of the finest horsemen in the world. I purchased many handmade items via a friend there years ago and treasure them. Thank you Sharon, for your wonderful info. Afganistan has some of the most sort after minerals in the world including vast deposits of uranium. This info was published not too long ago as I remember.

Before the USSR invasion, Afganistan was a happening place, home of the finest horsemen in the world. I purchased many handmade items via a friend there years ago and treasure them.

Thank you Sharon, for your wonderful info.

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By: Sharon http://howtobearetronaut.com/2010/10/once-upon-a-time-in-afghanistan/#comment-59648 Sharon Fri, 26 Aug 2024 16:42:02 +0000 http://howtobearetronaut.com/?p=7618#comment-59648 I lived in Afghanistan in the early 70s. There was obvious CIA presence on the streets (crew cuts, fake Hawaiian shirts, bermuda shorts, white socks, black shoes, Ray-bans, hello ?) There were Russian missile silos disguised as grain silos north of Mazar-i-Sharif, guarded by Russian soldiers with guns. There was excellent medical care at the central hospital in Kabul, with training and an outreach program run by Medecins Sans Frontiers. A foreign woman, I walked freely through the streets of Kabul. I sometimes wore a chappai, but was not molested or even especially noticed if I didn't. I loved it there, although I certainly didn't approve of the casual abuse of the Hazara people. Pakistan, on the other hand, was a nightmare and I often went dressed as a man in the streets. Even then, I had stones thrown at me, and experienced rioting on the streets due in part to my presence. There seemed to be a large "intelligence community" presence at Tarbella Dam, and fundamentalist mullahs were already fomenting unrest. During the Soviet invasion, a friend photographed the illegal use of Stinger missiles in Chitral as well as instruction manuals on the use of nerve gas written in Russian as well as photographs of captured nerve gas canisters. He also shot documentary footage of the war, including footage of moujahiddin armed with obsolete rifles fighting Russian tanks. We took this information to the major media outlets in New York and attempted to address the U.N. about it. NO ONE cared. Someone broke into our room at the San Moritz hotel on Central Park, rifled through the documents and stole my friend's Italian passport. That same night, my wallet was lifted when we ate at a fancy Pakistani restaurant uptown. It was found days later in the light shaft of the elevator in the highrise housing the restaurant. Nothing was missing. My friend got travel documents from his embassy and left the country immediately. He was later killed, filming in the mountains of Afghanistan. Later during the Soviet war, refugees...mostly women and children, mostly "peasants"....were housed in camps in Peshawar under the most arduous of conditions. Aid was not forthcoming from the United States. It was easy to radicalize the Afghani under these circumstances, since all they had to cling to was the Qu'uan. How can America possibly be surprised that the Taliban made such headway ? The Afghani were some of the finest people I have ever met. And in my opinion, Pakistan was and is one of the most dangerous places on Earth because of its irrationality and religious fanaticism. Young men are unemployed, urban, and cannot afford the bride-price to marry...a dangerous and easily swayed group. Many of the problems found there can be traced back to partition by the British and a displaced population. The same defensiveness, for many of the same reasons, exists in Israel, in my opinion. Last month I stumbled upon some CIA-linked documents on the Internet. They detailed minerals, gemstones and other assets found in Afghanistan. The most interesting was the statistic documenting the fairly recent discovery of large deposits of uranium. I bookmarked these documents, but when I went back to review them a week later, they had been removed and in their place was a link requiring CIA clearance to access. There is so much more going on over there, such a different agenda, than what we are allowed to see in the popular press. I mourn the destruction of this wonderful place and the sorrow rained down upon its people. I lived in Afghanistan in the early 70s. There was obvious CIA presence on the streets (crew cuts, fake Hawaiian shirts, bermuda shorts, white socks, black shoes, Ray-bans, hello ?) There were Russian missile silos disguised as grain silos north of Mazar-i-Sharif, guarded by Russian soldiers with guns. There was excellent medical care at the central hospital in Kabul, with training and an outreach program run by Medecins Sans Frontiers. A foreign woman, I walked freely through the streets of Kabul. I sometimes wore a chappai, but was not molested or even especially noticed if I didn’t. I loved it there, although I certainly didn’t approve of the casual abuse of the Hazara people. Pakistan, on the other hand, was a nightmare and I often went dressed as a man in the streets. Even then, I had stones thrown at me, and experienced rioting on the streets due in part to my presence. There seemed to be a large “intelligence community” presence at Tarbella Dam, and fundamentalist mullahs were already fomenting unrest.

During the Soviet invasion, a friend photographed the illegal use of Stinger missiles in Chitral as well as instruction manuals on the use of nerve gas written in Russian as well as photographs of captured nerve gas canisters. He also shot documentary footage of the war, including footage of moujahiddin armed with obsolete rifles fighting Russian tanks. We took this information to the major media outlets in New York and attempted to address the U.N. about it. NO ONE cared. Someone broke into our room at the San Moritz hotel on Central Park, rifled through the documents and stole my friend’s Italian passport. That same night, my wallet was lifted when we ate at a fancy Pakistani restaurant uptown. It was found days later in the light shaft of the elevator in the highrise housing the restaurant. Nothing was missing. My friend got travel documents from his embassy and left the country immediately. He was later killed, filming in the mountains of Afghanistan.

Later during the Soviet war, refugees…mostly women and children, mostly “peasants”….were housed in camps in Peshawar under the most arduous of conditions. Aid was not forthcoming from the United States. It was easy to radicalize the Afghani under these circumstances, since all they had to cling to was the Qu’uan. How can America possibly be surprised that the Taliban made such headway ? The Afghani were some of the finest people I have ever met. And in my opinion, Pakistan was and is one of the most dangerous places on Earth because of its irrationality and religious fanaticism. Young men are unemployed, urban, and cannot afford the bride-price to marry…a dangerous and easily swayed group. Many of the problems found there can be traced back to partition by the British and a displaced population. The same defensiveness, for many of the same reasons, exists in Israel, in my opinion.

Last month I stumbled upon some CIA-linked documents on the Internet. They detailed minerals, gemstones and other assets found in Afghanistan. The most interesting was the statistic documenting the fairly recent discovery of large deposits of uranium. I bookmarked these documents, but when I went back to review them a week later, they had been removed and in their place was a link requiring CIA clearance to access. There is so much more going on over there, such a different agenda, than what we are allowed to see in the popular press. I mourn the destruction of this wonderful place and the sorrow rained down upon its people.

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By: Joanne Ciccone http://howtobearetronaut.com/2010/10/once-upon-a-time-in-afghanistan/#comment-59638 Joanne Ciccone Fri, 26 Aug 2024 14:59:24 +0000 http://howtobearetronaut.com/?p=7618#comment-59638 These pictures should fill us all with hope for their future, but I wonder how long it will take to settle all the wars and issues that fractured this country from a modern future. These pictures should fill us all with hope for their future, but I wonder how long it will take to settle all the wars and issues that fractured this country from a modern future.

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By: CatM http://howtobearetronaut.com/2010/10/once-upon-a-time-in-afghanistan/#comment-57965 CatM Mon, 15 Aug 2024 16:22:52 +0000 http://howtobearetronaut.com/?p=7618#comment-57965 How surprising! I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around the kind of philosophy that would make someone look at all this and be dissatisfied with the progress of their own country to the point of wrestling it back to the stone age. How surprising! I’m having trouble wrapping my mind around the kind of philosophy that would make someone look at all this and be dissatisfied with the progress of their own country to the point of wrestling it back to the stone age.

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By: mcravener http://howtobearetronaut.com/2010/10/once-upon-a-time-in-afghanistan/#comment-56808 mcravener Sun, 31 Jul 2024 13:36:25 +0000 http://howtobearetronaut.com/?p=7618#comment-56808 @ Token - I agree the countryside has probably always been unaffected by attempts at modernization, although quite possibly vaccinations went beyond the cities when things were looking up for Afghanistan, at least you'd hope so. @ Oh Whatever The mess Afghanistan is in is definately in part caused by the Taliban, but their ascendency came after the nation was torn asunder by the Soviets, and unfortunately international support did not come to Afghanistan after the Soviets had left. A war mentality brings out the worst in people and quite possibly religion and radical beliefs have an 'in' from the chaos and desperation caused by war. @ Token – I agree the countryside has probably always been unaffected by attempts at modernization, although quite possibly vaccinations went beyond the cities when things were looking up for Afghanistan, at least you’d hope so.

@ Oh Whatever
The mess Afghanistan is in is definately in part caused by the Taliban, but their ascendency came after the nation was torn asunder by the Soviets, and unfortunately international support did not come to Afghanistan after the Soviets had left.

A war mentality brings out the worst in people and quite possibly religion and radical beliefs have an ‘in’ from the chaos and desperation caused by war.

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